When we think back to the 60s, we often think of the counterculture movement - hippies, and freelove, and equality - but in the shadows sat a different world, as unmarried pregnant women were sent away in secrecy to maternity homes, told to give birth, leave their baby behind for adoption, and forget any of it ever happened. Today we sit down with Laura Engel to talk about her book, "You'll Forget This Ever Happened: Secrets, Shame, and Adoption in the 1960s" about her experiences as a teenager, shipped off to a maternity home to give birth during the Summer of Love.

Navigating open adoption can be difficult, in part because there isn’t a template to follow, or many positive examples of how to navigate the challenges in ways that lead to the best outcomes, so Mary Ellen, a birthmother, and Pauline, an adoptive mother created their own kind of open adoption - filled with trust, love, and friendship.

This is Part II of our incredible interview with Dr. Gretchen Sisson, the author of the new book,Relinquished: The Politics of Adoption and the Privilege of American Motherhood, and our upcoming Activism in Adoption Speaker.